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Liberty City



I'm sure most folks out there realize that a lot of the stuff they read/see in the mainstream media is bullshit, and that propaganda is not something that went out of style with Hitler. But here is evidence that it is still going on, in a major way, today. Some 8,000 pages released by the pentagon detailing a meticulously planned trip for "military analysts" to "inspect" the Guantanamo Bay detention camp in Cuba.

Basically after crazed left wing radicals such as The Red Cross started spreading totally false rumors about Gitmo, suggesting the good ol USA was using: "humiliating acts, solitary confinement, temperature extremes, use of forced positions" against prisoners. The inspectors concluded that "the construction of such a system, whose stated purpose is the production of intelligence, cannot be considered other than an intentional system of cruel, unusual and degrading treatment and a form of torture." The Pentagon took action, inviting ex military personnel to come visit the camp, and see for themselves, what kind of stuff was going on.

The "Military Analysts" spent a total of four hours in cuba total. They spent less than three hours touring the facility, and one hour was spent eating lunch with the troops.(gotta support them)

What did the Analysts see?
-a viewing of an interrogation,
-a tour of an "unoccupied cellblock,"
-a visit to the detention hospital.

Here is what one of the visitors had to say about their time spent in Cuba to CNN's Betty Nguyen


NGUYEN: Let's back up for just a moment, because you said you said watched an interrogation.

SHEPPERD: Yes.

NGUYEN: Kind of explain to us how that played out. And were there any instances of abuse or possible abuse?

SHEPPERD: Absolutely not. These -- when I sat and watched them, I want to be very careful in describing them. And I don't want to describe how we watched or anything of that sort. But basically, you're able to observe interrogations. They have various ways of monitoring the interrogations and what have you and letting you see what's going on. With the interrogations that we watched were interrogators, there were translators that translated for the detainee and there were also intelligence people in there.

And they're basically asking questions. They just ask the same questions over a long period of time. They get information about the person's family, where they're from, other people they knew. All the type of things that you would want in any kind of criminal investigation. And these were all very cordial, very professional. There was laughing in two of them that we...

NGUYEN: Laughing in an interrogation?

SHEPPERD: ... in the two of them that we watched. Yes, indeed. It's not -- it's not like the impression that you and I have of what goes on in an interrogation, where you bend people's arms and mistreat people. They're trying to establish a firm professional relationship where they have respect for each other and can talk to each other. And yes, there were laughing and humor going on in a couple of these things. And I'm talking about a remark made where someone will smirk or laugh or chuckle.

NGUYEN: All right. General Don Shepperd, we appreciate your time and that look inside Gitmo, with you being there on this tour. Thank you for that.

I would totally be cracking up too. I mean, naked pyramids are hilarious. Also this interrogation sounds particularly hilarious:

"he was stripped naked, isolated, given intravenous fluids and forced to urinate on himself, and exercised to exhaustion during interrogations that lasted 18 to 20 hours a day for 48 of 54 days."

Anyways, read the rest of the salon article, if this kind of stuff interests you as much as it does me. Its the sort of thing anyone with the slightest bit of common sense realized without having to be told, but its still sobering to read internal pentagon documents detailing how elaborate this particular charade went. This isnt even getting into terror alerts or WMDs or blackwater or what kind of shit is really going on in the streets of Iraq either. This is the stuff that is available for us to learn, its probably just the icing on the cake, y'know?

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1 comment:

. said...

dang son